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From:         Leon Tabory <letabor@CRUZIO.COM>

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David

 

I can be pissed at  lack of compassion and at mistreatment of people

anywhere in the world. Screw you suggests to me not a call for a specific

action but an outraged outcry at uncalled for meanness. I don't think it is

fair to single out the United States as being a bad apple among nations,

when in my opinion it is qactually better than most.

 

In its litteral meaning screwing might be more of a gift from heaven than an

insult.

 

leon

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From: RACE --- <race@MIDUSA.NET>

To: BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 9:29 PM

Subject: replace country with world?

 

 

>Leon suggests (as I undersand it)

>in recent poem of the screw you motif that he is not willing to screw

>you to America (a nice nationalism) but if we do the following

>calculation FOR ALL country REPLACE world THEN yes screw you ...

>

>Goodness.

>

>Think Universally Act Intrapersonally

>-- the bumper sticker from Firewalk Thru Madness --

>

>of course there are many meanings of screw and you so ... maybe i'll

>twist and shout with the rest of the world too.... !!!

>

>the vortex in wichita is now firmly placed in my satchel bag by the way!

>

>david rhaesa

>salina, Kansas

>.-

>

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 06:52:45 UT

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From:         Sherri <love_singing@CLASSIC.MSN.COM>

Subject:      Re: Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive to Study

 

>Sherri wrote:

 

so long as the archives are not fully available (due to this discord and

whatever other reasons there may be),

 

Gerry,  i'm not blaming this mess on any one thing.  nor am i saying that Jan

started it.  that would be terribly simplistic and naive (not to mention the

fact that i have so little information on the entire issue in the first

place).  i do think that the personal discord may cause the problem to be

continued at greater length.  i do not have enough knowledge of the history of

what has been going on to even have a clue as to all the contributing factors.

 i just know that personal strife will always extenuate matters.

 

so what i hope is (i know i sound pollyanna-ish) that everyone will turn

his/her attention to the matter at hand - which is the proper care of the

archive and the dissemination of the information contained in it so that we

can all better understand JK and his work.

 

sincerely,

sherri

 

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From:   BEAT-L: Beat Generation List on behalf of Gerald Nicosia

Sent:   Sunday, October 26, 1997 9:54 PM

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Subject:        Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive to Study

 

At 03:09 AM 10/27/97 UT, you wrote:

>Bill Gargan wrote:

>There's still lots of work to be done, which why all this bickering upsets

me.

> It can only detract from general interest in Kerouac.

 

Sherri wrote:

>i agree Bill.  i think this bitterness not only detracts from JK, but

>seriously deters good scholarship from being possible.  so long as the

>archives are not fully available (due to this discord and whatever other

>reasons there may be), and possibly not being adequately cared for in some

>places, there can be no hope of putting ALL of the pieces together for the

>best possible understanding.

 

Dear Sherri:                    Oct 26, 1997

        To set the record straight, the "discord" began when Jan Kerouac

filed suit against the Sampas family in May, 1994.  At that point, John

Sampas had been in control of the Kerouac Estate for 3 years.  He had made

no move to put the Kerouac Archive in a library during that period.  To the

contrary, he had sold a good many pieces off to collectors and dealers, and

he had sabotaged his own dealer Jeffrey Weinberg's attempt to sell the

entire archive to the Bancroft Library in Berkeley.  Sampas had also

rebuffed and insulted Tom Staley of the Humanities Research Center at U of

Texas, Austin, who was also interested in purchasing the collection.

Weinberg and Bonnie Bearden of the Bancroft Library as well as Tom Staley

are available to verify what I say (not "unsubstantiated" as Mr. Gyenis will

claim).

        So please do not hold the "discord" responsible for the Kerouac

Archive not being available in a library right now.  I know that is what Mr.

Maher and Mr. Sampas's other supporters have claimed.

        They ignore the fact that I have offered again and again to work

with Mr. Sampas on getting the Kerouac Archive into a library RIGHT NOW.

The lawsuit, if it goes forward, will determine who gets what share of the

revenue from the Kerouac Estate, and whether Jan's heirs and Jack's nephew

Paul Blake Jr deserve to get anything.  But a library sale could be made

tomorrow, and the money could be put in escrow until the court decides

whether it all belongs to Mr. Sampas or whether he must share it with Mr.

Blake and Ms. Kerouac's heirs.  It is that simple, and that easy, if Mr.

Sampas wanted to do it.

        Bancroft, Stanford, and New York Public would all pay one million

dollars for the archive tomorrow, and I know that because I have talked to

the respective collections directors of each library.

        Respectfully, Gerald Nicosia

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I saw an enlightening painting on North Poplar Street in Wichita between

Douglas and Second this weekend.  It was titled "A Gang of One".

 

I returned to a digest that included a diatribe or polemic i'm not

certain which concerning the anti-Johnsonishtistic cliqueishness of

elements on the Beat-L "ganging" up on folks and throwing them to the

wolves.  And i thought -- oh yeah i think i did body slam that guy once

or twice.  Sad that he took it as hateful.  Oh well.

 

And then of course the gang doesn't ever argue within itself.  We never

disagree amongst ourselves -- we only say GO GO GO and AH! and this and

that wondering who can pat the other's backs fastest and bestest and we

do this while mentioning coded messages of the music which we're

listening to while writing (for example i'm listening to Howl in my left

ear and a learning channel show on apparitions in my right at this

moment) and the coded soundtrack changes the whole meaning of the whole

thing to everyone here and there and everywhere that is IN the gang but

is intended obviously as a stonewalling of those who are out.  Like my

introduction to the Beat-L when I was so fucking beat that in reading

Rinaldo on Howl and the Declaration of Independence pulled Carl Becker's

historical interpretation off the bookshelf and began to scan it and

told people that i was reading it (and the author wasn't even BEAT

egad)  and of course i've committed a crime against humanity here and

there in my days on and off list.  I've burned a book or two and torn

many apart to place them in different order in journals -- tossing on a

title and giving it to my shrink.  And i've liberated more books than

anyone on this list in my youth and what am i to do about it.  i ain't

much of a liberator these days.  I'm much more of a donater taking a box

of books to charities usually a couple times a month.  But how long will

this bardonic purgatorgistic mark of theft hang on my brow like Cain

perhaps I can spawn an entire race and will this race be as EVIL as

America as the world as Moloch or Angels?  I have no clue

 

And who do I see to get into this Gang anyway.  How many in this Gang?

What are their names what are their names do you know the folks on the

good Reuben James?  I must wonder now and then but I am told that if one

merely mails to listserv address the word REVIEW the list of the

co-conspirators will flash on my screen and i can mark down which are on

the side of grace and which on the side of Moloch and who live in Kansas

or have been through Wichita and driven down Poplar Street is obviously

something of a Calvinistic notion of the "elect" in this Gang of One.

 

But what was I saying?

 

Oh yes.  I drove South.  I saw.  I visited.  I followed an enchanting

Irish pied piper keyboard from oldtown to the Bill Garrison blues

society convention birthday party an eclectic Ericksonian halloween bash

and a rendition of "All of Me" in which we all decided we were only half

conscious so began again singing "Half of me, why not take Half of Me"

and then walked again into a dark wichita night and the Gang of One

painting lead me here and there and to the Knights Motel and back across

to Poplar and to the U. and to Southeast Asia foreign policy concerning

Burmese/Myanamaristic heroin dealing.  And return to a diatribe against

my one nation under God and heard a cat say this morning "I invent more

Gods in one day than you will believe in in a lifetime" and so I

understand but then again after about two or three questions from moi he

did admit that he also "destroys more Gods in one day than you will

believe in in a lifetime" and this caveman's eyes sparkle in a cricket

habitat as he says these things and so do i invent or do i destroy and

am I america or is america some evil demon someone ELSE has created and

that i will sit around and whine about in my youth.  Of course it is,

because we all go through those days ... bad hair days in which the

world is our oyster and the troubles are all caused by them.  By the

gang.  That damn clique on the Beat-L -- they're probably responsible

for the tensions in Kashmir afterall aren't they.  And I am A GANG OF

ONE!  but it is pretty fucking big ONE if you get the drift.  ONE nation

under GOD (pick a god any god) INDIVISABLE ah there's the rub.  At least

to those who ain't in Kansas cuz ya gotta know that whether you pick

Lecompton or Topeka the crystal on my bathroom shelf still shines the

same mystic colours.  Why divide?  Why not belive in indivisibility?

Because I am not me?  You are not me.  I am not in the Gang.  The Gang

is in the Gang and since I'm outside of the Gang I must not be in the

Gang and I am outside the Gang because I ain't no I yet I'm sitting

around saying YOU YOU YOU it's all your fault.  Well, son, find a little

Moloch in yourself ... smile at it sing Holy Holy Holy to your Moloch

admit it and get over it and become a Gang of One and then look around

at the Gangs of Gangs that Mother of All Gangs that you feared most

(whichever it happens to be this minute) and you'll say -- Oh it's you!

Why didn't you tell me were falling into that old Steppenwolf spiritual

trip again!!! <grin>

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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I think the Florida marlins just won the World seies.  Renteria hit one up

the middle in the 11th.

 

Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to my

mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.  This guy is just 22 years

old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the

US and play.

 

Go figure.

 

"I love you Miami" is what he shouted.

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From:         Attila Gyenis <GYENIS@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: estate stuff and blah blah

 

In a message dated 97-10-25 17:30:20 EDT, Gerry writes:

 

<<  That's the only time we  have met, to my recollection.  YOu certainly

never attended any of my other  speeches or presentations in Lowell. ...

(snip)         ....You had to have had access to Jan's deposition, which

could only have been thru Sampas.  And that deposition tells how she

discovered the forgery, just as the SAMPAS's deposition of me tells my side

of the story.  If you haven't read my side yet, just go on over to Sampas's

house and read it.  I'm sure he'd be more than happy to show it to you.  And

don't forget to ask him for another Viking/Penguin ad for DHARMA BEAT, while

you're at it.

        Best always, Gerry Nicosia>>

 

Gerry,

 

Besides the Greek dinner that we shared, I videotaped your speech in Lowell

when you talked about 'The Tragedy of Jack Kerouac" (not sure of the exact

title) and we talked several times that weekend. I saw you another year when

Jan and you spoke at the Middlesex Community College (about the archives and

stuff). I saw you in New York at the two NYU events. The second year at NYU

we weren't talking much because of a difference of opinion after you

disagreed about the way I edited an article that was to be included in DHARMA

beat (that was excerpted from your speech in Lowell), which never got

published after you accused me of censorship. And I did talk to you once or

twice on the phone.

 

And I always supported the fact that Jack's archives should be publicly

available as Jack intended. I just don't think Jack intended you to handle

it.

 

And I have always felt that Jan was due something from the estate being the

daughter of Jack. But a few years ago, when I found that she was getting

monies (royalties) from the estate, that issue became less of an concern. How

much more she should have gotten, legally or ethically, is a different

question that I don't have a strong opinion on.

 

When I say "met with" I mean more then just a hello. So while I have seen

John Sampas many times during the Lowell events, I have only met and talked

with him a few times.

 

I have only approached John Sampas once for material for DHARMA beat (and

that was this year and I got turned down). He did on his own offer DHARMA

beat two unpublished Kerouac pieces a couple of years ago (which we

published).

 

You make the accusation that the ads were all done through Mr. Sampas,

whereas in reality I contacted each of the companies myself, directly. Now if

you have information that Viking does not publish an ad without Sampas

approval, so be it.

 

I have NEVER been to John Sampas's house. I have NEVER seen Jan's depositions

(or your deposition).

 

These are all assumptions (among others) that you make and that you keep

repeating. It wasn't true the first time you said it and it is not true now

either.

 

I haven't lived near Lowell for over a year and a half (I used to live in New

Hampshire). Actually, we are practically neighbors since I am now living here

in northern California (Eureka).

 

so if you are coming over, let me know

and I'll bake you a cake

Attila

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From:         Attila Gyenis <GYENIS@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Steal this book

 

The people who are stealing Kerouac books aren't stealing them to read. They

are stealing them to resell to used bookstores. It is very hard to find used

Kerouac used books (since everyone keeps theirs for life). I know that is the

case in NYC. So I don't think it is the people on this list who are stealing

them (?or are you). Kerouac books, good as gold.

 

someone wrote:

>> Now I'm hearing that followers of the beat generation are notorious  book

thieves in some areas.  What does that say about the Beat ethic?  Do any of

you bookstore employees on this list know of other books and genres that are

eminently stealable?  I can't believe that in the whole wide world of books,

only Beat Generation

topics inspire theft. ..

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From:         Phil Chaput <philzi@TIAC.NET>

Subject:      Re: Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive to Study

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>Dear Sherri:                    Oct 26, 1997

>        To set the record straight, the "discord" began when Jan Kerouac

>filed suit against the Sampas family in May, 1994.  At that point, John

>Sampas had been in control of the Kerouac Estate for 3 years.  He had made

>no move to put the Kerouac Archive in a library during that period.

 

Folks, read the above then pick up your copy of "Some of the Dharma" open

it to the forward and read this the fourth paragraph down. It reads,

 

 In June 1993, I placed the finished manuscript of "Some of the Dharma" and

the eleven spiral notebooks in which Jack originally wrote the book in the

New York Public Library's Berg Collection. They are available there for

study by literary scholars.

John Sampas Executor - The Estate of Jack Kerouac

 

Personally I would love to see all the archives in a library at some point,

as I'm sure all of you would but I think anyone would be a fool to only get

one million for it. Gerry, I'm sure John really appreciates all your help

but somehow I don't think he needs you to negotiate a deal with a library

for him. Phil Chaput

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> Leon Tabory wrote:

 

> I can be pissed at  lack of compassion and at mistreatment of people

> anywhere in the world. Screw you suggests to me not a call for a

> specific

> action but an outraged outcry at uncalled for meanness. I don't think

> it is

> fair to single out the United States as being a bad apple among

> nations,

> when in my opinion it is qactually better than most.

 

Leon,

 

I have to agree with you about the replacing of America with world,

because the kind of meanness you suggest is in effect widespread as

"man's inhumanity to man."  I read Keith's screw you America to mean he

wants nothing to do with what America is, but whether one likes it or

not, whether we feel we are in or out of the mainstream, we are all a

part of America unless we chose to leave it.  I would rather see the

screw you applied more appropriately to specific actions and not the

country as a whole, much like what Ginsberg was doing when he wrote "Go

fuck yourself with your atom bomb."

DC

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Subject:      progress report Howl part one [Fwd: Re: howling]

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here is where i'm at in thinking concerning Howl part one over on the

Burke-L.  If any of y'all can provide details and insights to help me

further in this expedition i appreciate any help.  Feel free to splice

your own thoughts right into the stream of thought.  One of Kenneth

Burke's beliefs was in "the ongoing conversation" and i believe that

things i've discovered on Beat-L such as the exploding text are right in

line with this approach.

 

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RACE --- wrote:

>

> i'll try to put into words more clearly the process involved in the next

> few days.  Well back from Wichita -- had a good talk with John O. Burtis of

 Kansas State about this process over the weekend at Wichita State.  Not too

 much time this morning but will try to provide another layer of thought.

>

Richard wrote:

> > (2)So: What is being unfolded, what is being folded?

>

> while i just did it visually, the best way to understand it would be

> literally the paper is folded and unfolded.

 

But beyond this literal -- which is something of a movement from some of

William Burroughs and Brion Gysin's toying with the evolutionary virus

of symbolism, there are obviously movements and layers of folding and

unfolding.  John had some interesting insights in this regard.

>

Richard wrote:

 

>  I see one specific

> > word repeated ("naked"), but what is it specifically that connects the two

> > passages you mention?

 

in addition to the structural notions mentioned below, i think it is

fair to suggest that the depth of condensation of the term "naked" in

the Beat spin on language is significant.  "Naked" might even be

considered a God-term of the Beatific.  I hope that some can offer

examples of the revelatory function of the naked terminology of

"naked".  I will contemplate at attempt to come up with some examples

myself.

>

> it would be the difference structurally of these passages from the

> litany of who's between.  I would guess that the second passage should

> probably be extended further.

 

Now i'm adding a twist of sorts to the folding and unfolding which comes

from William and Brion's works and obviously is influenced by the film

and music artist-producers.  A bit of splicing by incorporating a tad of

KB's dialectician's hymn into the stew.

>

> so for example:

>

> Hail to Thee, Logos, Thou Vast Almighty Title . . . I saw the best minds of my

 generation destroyed by madness, starving

> hysterical naked . . .In whose name we conjure our acts the partial

 representatives ... who studied Plotinus Poe St. John of the Cross

> telepathy and bop kaballa because the cosmos instinctively vibrated at

> their feet in Kansas ... to recreate the syntax and measure ... Of Thy whole

 act. . . . of poor human prose and stand before you speechless and intelligent

 and shaking with shame, ... may we be Thy delegates In parliament assembled.

 Parts of thy wholeness.  And in our conflicts Correcting one another ...

 rejected yet confessing out the soul to conform to the

> rhythm of thought in his naked and endless head, the madman bum and

> angel beat in Time, unknown, yet putting down here what might be left to

> say in time come after death .....By study of our errors Gaining Revelation.

>

 

I believe that the splicing of the poetry of Kenneth Burke into the

folding and unfolding example begins to paint a bit more of where my

idea is headed.  Perhaps we can have an apparitional panel at the Iowa

City conference in which KB and WSB and others of significance can

dissect the howling of post-Nagasaki literature even more <smile>.

 

> it seems that each of the "who" sections when set within these folds (as

> shown here with the Kansas line) shows that AG has condensed a huge tale

> that perhaps is yet to be told.  In Kerouacian style, the telling of

> this line alone would likely be most of a book.  AG condenses so much

> experience into these lines revealing a glimpse of the lives but hiding

> the details of the stories, the legends, the myths.

 

I had even more insight -- near epiphany of a notion suggested by

patricia elliot of lawrence that there are no minor poets -- while in

Wichita.  Having bracketed the one in the litany of who's prior to

wichita expedition, i found myself receiving tour of town from a gentle

Irishman who has just published in small press a book about a tavern in

Wichita named "A Blackout".  It is precisely the "type" of work -- in

this instance something of "a folklore of a place" that is not revealed

but suggested and hidden in the litany of the who's in the pre-folded

form and this is precisely the type of unfolding that i was hoping to

show.  It is these types of small press "minor" writer works which fill

the experiential gaps in the anthem of Part One of Howl for Carl

Solomon.

>

> i will try and do more to flesh out what i'm up to in the coming days.

i will try and do more to flesh out what i'm up to in the coming weeks.

>

> david rhaesa

> salina, Kansas

> >

dbr

 

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Subject:      beat websites: updated today

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Here's my updated (plus the original) Beat websites listing. If your site

isn't included here, don't get mad... just send the link (yo, what do a l=

ook

like, a freakin librarian?) and I'll include it in my master list, which =

is

certainly NOT definitive.

 

I understand that when these leave my mailbox and go through cyberspace,

there is some garbling or something. If you have trouble deciphering any =

of

these links, let me know, and I'll do what I can to help.

 

IF YOU ARE ON AOL, write to me directly and I'll send you the "hot-linked=

"

list. That will save you the trouble of typing the URL into your web brow=

ser.

You can just click on the hyperlink and ZINNNNG! Yer there.

 

For those of you who've already seen these, skip down to the line that sa=

ys

"Updated 27 October..."

 

diane de rooy

 

COMPASS POINTS ON THE cyberROAD

"Route 66 can be read in two directions. First stop on this page : Jack

Kerouac and the 'Beat Generation', a coast to coast trip down the legenda=

ry

highway, in the footsteps of the beatniks. A page of history. Second stop=

 :

Jack Kerouac and the 'Byte Generation', where we take a virtual stroll,

seeking memories of Route 66 in the Web universe. Or when the mouse repla=

ces

the car... " --From the intro to  "Jack Kerouac and the "Beat Generation"

home page

EVENTS

LCKerouac Festival Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/lckerouac/festival.htm">http://members.=

aol.com

/lckerouac/festival.htm</A>

SITES WITH LINKS

Literary Kicks =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html">http://www.cha=

rm.net/

%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The Unofficial WSB website =3D

<A HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=

.apc.or

g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The Wild Bohemian Home Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.halcyon.com/colinp/bohemian.htm">http://www.halcyon=

.com/co

linp/bohemian.htm</A>

"Included here are links to pages about Hippies, the Beat Generation, the

Grateful Dead and other Bohemian bands, outlaw bikers (including the Hell=

s

Angels), all the way back to... Diogenes and the Cynics. --Colin Pringle

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Ignition - On the Road in CyberSpace =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.the-wire.com/newjon/what.html">http://www.the-wire.=

com/new

jon/what.html</A>

"I=92m Jon Newton, a writer living in Toronto, Canada. CyberSpace ...is a=

 Black

Hole to most people who aren=92t online so why not write a kind of CyberS=

pace

On the Road, after Jack Kerouac?"

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Cassady's Home Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5160">http://www.geocities.com/S=

oHo/516

0</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The William S. Burroughs Files =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/">http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/</=

A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

burroughs =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=

.apc.or

g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

BohemianInk =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.levity.com/corduroy/index.htm">http://www.levity.co=

m/cordu

roy/index.htm</A>=20

Special mention goes to this site for its incredible focus on the art it

promotes, rather than the personalities who created it.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Jack Kerouac and the "Beat Generation" =3D

<A HREF=3D"http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_gen=

eration

.html">http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_generat=

ion.h

tml</A>

Weird, fascinating, filled with inaccuracies, but worth visiting nonethel=

ess,

if only to experience a French point of view on Jean Louis Kirouac.

PUBLISHERS

BookZen =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.bookzen.com">http://www.bookzen.com</A>

WRITING/EDUCATION

Kerouac, Spontaneous Prose =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=

html">h

ttp://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

English 320W-02: The Beat Generation =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=

html">h

ttp://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The Writer's Gallery =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">http=

://www.

onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Ball's Beat Generation =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.vmi.edu/%7Eenglish/beats.html">http://www.vmi.edu/%=

7Eengli

sh/beats.html</A>

Perhaps the most unlikely source for Beat links: Home page features Virgi=

nia

Military Institute cadets in uniform. "Intended Primarily for Students of=

 EN

365 This page contains links to multifaceted webs devoted to Kerouac,

Ginsberg, Burroughs, and other major figures of the Beat Generation."

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

<A HREF=3D"http://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html">http://www.mnsfld=

.edu/~j

ulrich/beatweb.html</A>

Welcome to the Internet Resources Page for English 320W-02: The Beat

Generation

Mansfield University of Pennsylvania=20

CHAT

beat generation private chatroom =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">aol:=

//2719:

2-2-beat%20generation</A>

TRIBUTES

Charles Plymell =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.buchenroth.com/cplymell.html">http://www.buchenroth=

.com/cp

lymell.html</A>

FANTASY

1996 Dharma Beats Roster =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.clark.net/pub/cosmic/96dbr.html">http://www.clark.n=

et/pub/

cosmic/96dbr.html</A>

"Kerouac managing veterans like Ginsberg and Huncke, along with rookies l=

ike

Kurt Cobain."=20

MAGAZINES

Steve Silberman's How Beat was born =3D

<A HREF=3D"http://ezone.org/ez/e2/articles/digaman.html">http://ezone.org=

/ez/e2/

articles/digaman.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

Shambhala Sun Home Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.shambhalasun.com/">http://www.shambhalasun.com/</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

Allen Ginsberg =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-gin=

sberg.h

tml">http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-ginsberg.=

html<

/A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

WIRED magazine =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://wwww.wired.com/wired/">http://wwww.wired.com/wired/</A>

BOOKSTORES

1 800 KEROUAC - Beat Generation Catalog =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.kerouac.com/">http://www.kerouac.com/</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

Jack Kerouac at the Iliad =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://host.interloc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html">http://host=

.interl

oc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

About Allen Ginsberg =3D Open Book Systems

<A HREF=3D"http://www.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm">h=

ttp://w

ww.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm</A>

SOUNDS

Kerouac Speaks =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html">=

http://

www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html</A>

NEWSGROUPS

<A HREF=3D"Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu">Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu</A>

alt.books.beatgeneration =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"aol://5863:126/alt.books.beatgeneration">aol://5863:126/alt.bo=

oks.bea

tgeneration</A>

MUSIC/MULTIMEDIA

Rhino Records - Catalog - Kerouac, Jack =3D <A HREF=3D"http://rhino.com/s=

earch/art

info.cfm?name=3DKEROUAC,+JACK">http://rhino.com/search/artinfo.cfm?name=3D=

KEROUAC,

+JACK</A>

VERVE Celebrates Charlie Parker =3D <A HREF=3D"http://www.jazzonln.com/JA=

ZZ/LABELS

/VERVE2/birdhome.htm">http://www.jazzonln.com/JAZZ/LABELS/VERVE2/birdhome=

.htm<

/A>

Sean Singer's Jazz Literature Page  =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/%7Essinger/">http://ezinfo.ucs.i=

ndiana.

edu/%7Essinger/</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Additions: Updated 27 October 1997, in no particular order:

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/">Beat Lite=

rature<

/A> good ol' Alex Howard....

http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html">Th=

e Beat=20

Literature Page</A>=20

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html">The Beat Genera=

tion: =20

Audio and Video Materia...</A>

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm">Beat Books =

and Poe

try List - General Beat Cul...</A> =20

http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html">column24.=

html at

 www.bigmagic.com</A>=20

http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html">Mark/Spa=

ce: Ana

chron City: Library: Authors: ...</A>

http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Revie=

w_entry

.html">Sixties Literature: Book, Film, Music and Mul...</A> =20

http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Review_entry.html

 

The author loses points for not knowing the difference between Dobie Gill=

is

and Maynard G. Krebs at this site:=20

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html">Nanes, =

Susan.=20

1995. Beat-ing a Dead Horse. CJ...</A>=20

http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html

 

Levi Asher: always bears repeating:

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html">Books=

 About=20

The Beats</A>

http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html=20

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html">And The Beach Goes On=

..July=20

1996</A>=20

http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html">wrcatalog3.html=

 at www

.waterrowbooks.com</A>=20

http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html">kerouac.html at ww=

w.dtx.n

et</A>=20

http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html

 

If you seek enlightenment, or maybe need a reference point as you make yo=

ur

way through "Some of the Dharma:"

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.=

html">B

uddhist Studies - Daily Zen Sutras</A>=20

http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html">Jack Kerouac and David=

 Amram<

/A>=20

http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.citylights.com/">Welcome to City Lights Bookseller=

s and P

ublis...</A>=20

http://www.citylights.com/

 

If you're looking for Beat books to collect:

<A HREF=3D"http://www.abebooks.com/">The Advanced Book Exchange Home Page=

</A>=20

http://www.abebooks.com/

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/">jack-K</A>=20

http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.=

htm">Th

e Only People For Him</A>=20

http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.htm

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html">Biography's=

 Top 10

 List-Jack Kerouac</A>=20

http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html">The Garden of =

Forking

 Paths: Green</A>=20

http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm">Allen Ginsberg=

 interv

iew</A>=20

http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm

 

 <A HREF=3D"aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965">WILLIAM S. BURROUG=

HS: 191

4-1997: The Priest</A>=20

aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html">KEROUAC TRIBUTE-L=

A TIMES

 REVIEW</A>=20

http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.h=

tml">SP

RING 95</A>=20

http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html">Beatniks on the Internet=

</A>=20

http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm">DHARMA bea=

t's Hom

e Page</A>=20

http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html">The=

 Keroua

c Quarterly</A>=20

http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html

 

I don't know about you, but this next thing made me completely ill. Let m=

e

know what you think:

 <A HREF=3D"http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/">Wisdom's Maw - Now Ava=

ilable!

</A>=20

http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/

 

Not so Beat, but good for dessert:

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/">The Love Teachings=

 of Kam

a Sutra</A>=20

http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/

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From:         Alex Howard <kh14586@ACS.APPSTATE.EDU>

Subject:      Re: America is

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On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, R. Bentz Kirby wrote:

 

> America is a pine tree in South Carolina.

>

> On the other hand, some folks would like to forget South Carolina.

>

I think South Carolina is the realization of a great oxymoron:  anarchist

government.  No one tells them what to do but them.

 

------------------

Alex Howard  (704)264-8259                    Appalachian State University

kh14586@am.appstate.edu                       P.O. Box 12149

http://www1.appstate.edu/~kh14586             Boone, NC  28608

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From:         Jennifer Stoner Dorson <JenPeace2U@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: beat websites: updated today

 

Diane

 

the list was quite extensive...so I guess I know where I will be spending

my next few days...I just wanted to say thanks for sharing it.

 

peace

jen

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Jen--- these should be hot, and save you lots of time. Click on blue

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diane

COMPASS POINTS ON THE cyberROAD

"Route 66 can be read in two directions. First stop on this page : Jack

Kerouac and the 'Beat Generation', a coast to coast trip down the legenda=

ry

highway, in the footsteps of the beatniks. A page of history. Second stop=

 :

Jack Kerouac and the 'Byte Generation', where we take a virtual stroll,

seeking memories of Route 66 in the Web universe. Or when the mouse repla=

ces

the car... " --From the intro to  "Jack Kerouac and the "Beat Generation"

home page

EVENTS

LCKerouac Festival Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/lckerouac/festival.htm">http://members.=

aol.com

/lckerouac/festival.htm</A>

SITES WITH LINKS

Literary Kicks =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html">http://www.cha=

rm.net/

%7Ebrooklyn/LitKicks.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The Unofficial WSB website =3D

<A HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=

.apc.or

g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The Wild Bohemian Home Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.halcyon.com/colinp/bohemian.htm">http://www.halcyon=

.com/co

linp/bohemian.htm</A>

"Included here are links to pages about Hippies, the Beat Generation, the

Grateful Dead and other Bohemian bands, outlaw bikers (including the Hell=

s

Angels), all the way back to... Diogenes and the Cynics. --Colin Pringle

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Ignition - On the Road in CyberSpace =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.the-wire.com/newjon/what.html">http://www.the-wire.=

com/new

jon/what.html</A>

"I=92m Jon Newton, a writer living in Toronto, Canada. CyberSpace ...is a=

 Black

Hole to most people who aren=92t online so why not write a kind of CyberS=

pace

On the Road, after Jack Kerouac?"

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Cassady's Home Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/5160">http://www.geocities.com/S=

oHo/516

0</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The William S. Burroughs Files =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/">http://www.hyperreal.com/wsb/</=

A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

burroughs =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.peg.apc.org/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html">http://www.peg=

.apc.or

g/~firehorse/wsb/wsb.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

BohemianInk =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.levity.com/corduroy/index.htm">http://www.levity.co=

m/cordu

roy/index.htm</A>=20

Special mention goes to this site for its incredible focus on the art it

promotes, rather than the personalities who created it.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Jack Kerouac and the "Beat Generation" =3D

<A HREF=3D"http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_gen=

eration

.html">http://www.virgin.fr/virgin/html/us/nostalgia/route66/beat_generat=

ion.h

tml</A>

Weird, fascinating, filled with inaccuracies, but worth visiting nonethel=

ess,

if only to experience a French point of view on Jean Louis Kirouac.

PUBLISHERS

BookZen =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.bookzen.com">http://www.bookzen.com</A>

WRITING/EDUCATION

Kerouac, Spontaneous Prose =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=

html">h

ttp://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

English 320W-02: The Beat Generation =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.english.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88/kerouac-spontaneous.=

html">h

ttp://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

The Writer's Gallery =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">http=

://www.

onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Ball's Beat Generation =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.vmi.edu/%7Eenglish/beats.html">http://www.vmi.edu/%=

7Eengli

sh/beats.html</A>

Perhaps the most unlikely source for Beat links: Home page features Virgi=

nia

Military Institute cadets in uniform. "Intended Primarily for Students of=

 EN

365 This page contains links to multifaceted webs devoted to Kerouac,

Ginsberg, Burroughs, and other major figures of the Beat Generation."

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

<A HREF=3D"http://www.mnsfld.edu/~julrich/beatweb.html">http://www.mnsfld=

.edu/~j

ulrich/beatweb.html</A>

Welcome to the Internet Resources Page for English 320W-02: The Beat

Generation

Mansfield University of Pennsylvania=20

CHAT

beat generation private chatroom =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">aol:=

//2719:

2-2-beat%20generation</A>

TRIBUTES

Charles Plymell =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.buchenroth.com/cplymell.html">http://www.buchenroth=

.com/cp

lymell.html</A>

FANTASY

1996 Dharma Beats Roster =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.clark.net/pub/cosmic/96dbr.html">http://www.clark.n=

et/pub/

cosmic/96dbr.html</A>

"Kerouac managing veterans like Ginsberg and Huncke, along with rookies l=

ike

Kurt Cobain."=20

MAGAZINES

Steve Silberman's How Beat was born =3D

<A HREF=3D"http://ezone.org/ez/e2/articles/digaman.html">http://ezone.org=

/ez/e2/

articles/digaman.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

Shambhala Sun Home Page =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.shambhalasun.com/">http://www.shambhalasun.com/</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

Allen Ginsberg =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-gin=

sberg.h

tml">http://www.talk.com/talk/club/special/transcripts/96-12-16-ginsberg.=

html<

/A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

WIRED magazine =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://wwww.wired.com/wired/">http://wwww.wired.com/wired/</A>

BOOKSTORES

1 800 KEROUAC - Beat Generation Catalog =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www.kerouac.com/">http://www.kerouac.com/</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

Jack Kerouac at the Iliad =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://host.interloc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html">http://host=

.interl

oc.com/%7Eiliadbks/kerouac.html</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D

About Allen Ginsberg =3D Open Book Systems

<A HREF=3D"http://www.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm">h=

ttp://w

ww.obs-europa.de/obs/english/books/ginsberg/ata.htm</A>

SOUNDS

Kerouac Speaks =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html">=

http://

www-hsc.usc.edu/~gallaher/k_speaks/kerouacspeaks.html</A>

NEWSGROUPS

<A HREF=3D"Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu">Beat-L@listserv.cuny.edu</A>

alt.books.beatgeneration =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"aol://5863:126/alt.books.beatgeneration">aol://5863:126/alt.bo=

oks.bea

tgeneration</A>

MUSIC/MULTIMEDIA

Rhino Records - Catalog - Kerouac, Jack =3D <A HREF=3D"http://rhino.com/s=

earch/art

info.cfm?name=3DKEROUAC,+JACK">http://rhino.com/search/artinfo.cfm?name=3D=

KEROUAC,

+JACK</A>

VERVE Celebrates Charlie Parker =3D <A HREF=3D"http://www.jazzonln.com/JA=

ZZ/LABELS

/VERVE2/birdhome.htm">http://www.jazzonln.com/JAZZ/LABELS/VERVE2/birdhome=

.htm<

/A>

Sean Singer's Jazz Literature Page  =3D=20

<A HREF=3D"http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/%7Essinger/">http://ezinfo.ucs.i=

ndiana.

edu/%7Essinger/</A>

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Additions: Updated 27 October 1997, in no particular order:

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/">Beat Lite=

rature<

/A> good ol' Alex Howard....

http://www.bibd.appstate.edu/~kh14586/links/beats/

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html">Th=

e Beat=20

Literature Page</A>=20

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/rothko/31/index.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html">The Beat Genera=

tion: =20

Audio and Video Materia...</A>

http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/BeatGen.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm">Beat Books =

and Poe

try List - General Beat Cul...</A> =20

http://www.compendium-books.com/beat/beatnew.htm

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html">column24.=

html at

 www.bigmagic.com</A>=20

http://www.bigmagic.com/pages/blackj/column24.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html">Mark/Spa=

ce: Ana

chron City: Library: Authors: ...</A>

http://euro.net/mark-space/ElisabethVonarburg2.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Revie=

w_entry

.html">Sixties Literature: Book, Film, Music and Mul...</A> =20

http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Review_entry.html

 

The author loses points for not knowing the difference between Dobie Gill=

is

and Maynard G. Krebs at this site:=20

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html">Nanes, =

Susan.=20

1995. Beat-ing a Dead Horse. CJ...</A>=20

http://www.columbia.edu/acis/bartleby/cjas/11/9.html

 

Levi Asher: always bears repeating:

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html">Books=

 About=20

The Beats</A>

http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Topics/BeatSources.html=20

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html">And The Beach Goes On=

..July=20

1996</A>=20

http://www.sfnorthbeach.com/jul96.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html">wrcatalog3.html=

 at www

.waterrowbooks.com</A>=20

http://www.waterrowbooks.com/wrcatalog3.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html">kerouac.html at ww=

w.dtx.n

et</A>=20

http://www.dtx.net/~vonhalem/kerouac.html

 

If you seek enlightenment, or maybe need a reference point as you make yo=

ur

way through "Some of the Dharma:"

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.=

html">B

uddhist Studies - Daily Zen Sutras</A>=20

http://www.ciolek.com/WWWVLPages/BuddhPages/Daily-Zen-Sutras.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html">Jack Kerouac and David=

 Amram<

/A>=20

http://www.fmp.com/amram/kerouac.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.citylights.com/">Welcome to City Lights Bookseller=

s and P

ublis...</A>=20

http://www.citylights.com/

 

If you're looking for Beat books to collect:

<A HREF=3D"http://www.abebooks.com/">The Advanced Book Exchange Home Page=

</A>=20

http://www.abebooks.com/

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/">jack-K</A>=20

http://www.rmisp.com/kerouac/

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.=

htm">Th

e Only People For Him</A>=20

http://www.theatlantic.com/atlantic/issues/96aug/jackk/jackk.htm

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html">Biography's=

 Top 10

 List-Jack Kerouac</A>=20

http://www.biography.com/read/reviews/jackk.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html">The Garden of =

Forking

 Paths: Green</A>=20

http://users.aol.com/paulcllins/resindex.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm">Allen Ginsberg=

 interv

iew</A>=20

http://www.tvguide.com/tv/poetry/ginsberg.htm

 

 <A HREF=3D"aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965">WILLIAM S. BURROUG=

HS: 191

4-1997: The Priest</A>=20

aol://4344:125.oct97_36.1331404.558905965

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html">KEROUAC TRIBUTE-L=

A TIMES

 REVIEW</A>=20

http://www.viperroom.com/Kerouactimes.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.h=

tml">SP

RING 95</A>=20

http://www.mainelink.net/~writer/cafe_html/spring_95/spring.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html">Beatniks on the Internet=

</A>=20

http://www.lisp.wayne.edu/beat.html

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm">DHARMA bea=

t's Hom

e Page</A>=20

http://members.aol.com/KEROUACZIN/DHARMAbeat.htlm

 

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html">The=

 Keroua

c Quarterly</A>=20

http://www.freeyellow.com/members/upstartcrow/page1.html

 

I don't know about you, but this next thing made me completely ill. Let m=

e

know what you think:

 <A HREF=3D"http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/">Wisdom's Maw - Now Ava=

ilable!

</A>=20

http://www2.linknet.net/fahey/Wisdom/

 

Not so Beat, but good for dessert:

 <A HREF=3D"http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/">The Love Teachings=

 of Kam

a Sutra</A>=20

http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:28:22 -0500

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         Diane De Rooy <Ddrooy@AOL.COM>

Subject:      sorry about the duplication...

 

meant to send it to jen directly, of course. didn't check my "To:" box. Must

be getting a bad case of Staufferitis.

 

hee hee hee....

 

diane

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:30:38 EST

Reply-To:     "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Sender:       "BEAT-L: Beat Generation List" <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

From:         "THE ZET'S GOOD." <breithau@KENYON.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Steal this book

 

As a librarian, I know that we (here at Kenyon college) stamp "DISCARD" on any

old library books we get rid of. If you want to boycott stolen books , you

might avoid ex-library copies that do not have a DISCARD stamp in them. I think

this practice is fairly common. Of course I say this after having bought a nice

ex-library copy of BIG SUR a few years ago (and also and ex-lib copy of Phillip

K. Dick's DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP). As any devout buyer of used

books knows, ex-library copies are not worth much in the investment dept. They

generally have the same statues as "READING COPIES." Once a book has been

stamped and bar coded, the price goes down. So buyer beware, choose as yer

concious directs!

 

dave B.

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>I think the Florida marlins just won the World seies.  Renteria hit one up

>the middle in the 11th.

>

>Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to my

>mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.  This guy is just 22 years

>old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the

>US and play.

>

>Go figure.

>

>"I love you Miami" is what he shouted.

 

Mr. Gallaher,

 

After hearing about the game this morning I was really sorry I didn't stop

work and watch it last night. Hernandez is an incredible baseball player.

As baeball fans know, Cuba has a reputation for developing outstanding

baseball players. One ponly has to check the history of how their teams do

in the Olympics.

 

Also, he didn't have to "escape--run away--flee" Cuba to play baseball, he

had to leave Cuba to become a millionare baseball player.

 

I have no problem with that, but there are many who would call him a

"gusano." That's unfair  because so many Cubans in the U.S. send money to

their relatives in Cuba.

 

It hasn't been easy on that tiny island with the most powerful nation on

earth doing everything in it's power--short of invasion and all-out war--to

break their economic back.

 

j grant

 

 

 

 

 

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From:         Gerald Nicosia <gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>

Subject:      Re: Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive to Study

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At 08:35 AM 10/27/97 -0500, Phil Chaput wrote: I think anyone would be a

fool to only get

>one million for it. Gerry, I'm sure John really appreciates all your help

>but somehow I don't think he needs you to negotiate a deal with a library

>for him. Phil Chaput

>

Phil,   Oct 27, 1997

        The libraries I mentioned, offering a million bucks for the Kerouac

Archive, are the richest in the country.  No library has got more than a

million (or maybe a million and a quarter, tops) to offer.  The only way Mr.

Sampas can get more is by selling the stuff off to collectors and dealers.

Then he can get a lot more, like about twenty million dollars (estimate

given me by several Beat dealers).

        Is that what you support--a return to the public marketing of pieces

of the archive?

        P.S. I offered my help because Maher and others claim it is the

lawsuit that prevents the deposit of Kerouac materials in a library.

        Respectfully, your father's friend

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:54:35 -0800

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From:         Gerald Nicosia <gnicosia@EARTHLINK.NET>

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At 03:03 AM 10/27/97 -0500, Attila Gyenis wrote:

>And I always supported the fact that Jack's archives should be publicly

>available as Jack intended. I just don't think Jack intended you to handle

>it...

 I have NEVER seen Jan's depositions

>(or your deposition).

 

Dear Attila,  Oct 27, 1997

        Jack sure as hell didn't intend the Sampases to take care of his

archive.  He wrote to Paul Blake, Jr. on October 20, 1997, just before he

fell ill: "I just wanted to leave my 'estate' (which is what it really is)

to someone directly connected with the last remaining drop of my direct

blood line, which is, me sister Carolyn, your Mom, and not to leave a

dingblasted f------g think to my wife's one hundred Greek relatives."

        On the other hand, I have in my possession signed statements from

both Paul Blake, Jr. and Jan Kerouac--who are the last remaining "drops of

his direct blood line"--stating that they wish me to care for Jack Kerouac's

archive.

        Jan's will reads: "As to these [Jack Kerouac's] literary works and

materials, I appoint GERALD NICOSIA as Literary Executor.  In his capacity

as Literary Executor, he shall make all decisions regarding the appropriate

publication, republication, sale, license, or any other exploitation of any

nature of any intellectual property rights... [of these materials]."

        The statement made by Paul Blake reads in part: "Gerald Nicosia is

authorized to seek information about libraries or other educational

institutions capable of housing and making available for study the literary

archive of my Uncle Jack Kerouac."

        In view of all this, how do you support your contention that John

Sampas should be in control of Kerouac's archive?

        P.S. I'm still trying to figure out how several mistakes from Jan's

deposition showed up in only one other place: YOUR POSTS.  Like the fact

that Jan was supposedly "on Medicaid."  Mr. Sampas's lawyer made this

mistake in the deposition, and it is a pretty dumb one, since you have to

earn less than $600 a month to get on Medicaid, and everybody (certainly

you) knew that Jan was making more than $600 a month.  Did you talk to

someone who'd read the deposition?

        Respectfully, Gerald Nicosia

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Diane De Rooy wrote:

>

> Not so Beat, but good for dessert:

>  <A HREF="http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/">The Love Teachings of Kam

> a Sutra</A>

> http://www.netsurf.org/~stampf/KamaSutra/

 

ain't bad for a naked breakfast either!

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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Subject:      Bob Kaufman Award

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Hi to everyone!       Oct 27, 1997

        Just wanted to explain that I'll be scarce for a few days since I'm

headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob

Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House

Press).  Bob's book was picked as the best poetry book in the Western United

States last year.  The awards ceremony is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.

starting 6:30 Tuesday evening.  Supposed to be movie stars reading the

award-winning books.  Sounds like a kick.

        Best always, Gerry Nicosia

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From:         Antoine Maloney <stratis@ODYSSEE.NET>

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Get out the blue ribbon folks!

                  (...and apologies in advance now that I see how I did go

on and on! Anyone know the music of Chick Brodsky? He has a brilliant song

about being bored silly by some self-involved person...not me of course!)

 

Attila,

 

        There have been some interesting psots from both sides of the estate

divide, but this is among the best and the current blue medal winner.

 

        ...sorry Gerry, but it all sounds very sane, reasonable and very,

very convincing. The rabidness of your attacks and those of Wallner have

slowly worked to erode my sympathies for "the cause."

 

        I know "rabid" will be seen as a strong  - too strong - word and I

await the spin you will put on it...and the way you will weave it into all

the other "humiliations' of the past estate battles. I use "hmiliations"

because it carries special meaning here in my province of Quebec. The

separatist forces regularly decry the "humiliations" that they have been

subjected to without ever being able to satisfactorily detail who did what

to who and what sort of outcome they hope for.

 

        Sorry for the digression, and perhaps the inept comparison, but

great authorship - greatness in any field - is no surety that one will excel

in other fields of endeavour; your presentation and debate of the issue has

hurt "the cause.'

 

        One of many points I would strenuously argue against: you have said

repeatedly that while you were away from the list the "gang of (pick a

number)" regularly sang the praises of John Sampas and sniped at you; never

happened!! Not in my recollection. Whoever was reporting back to you from

the list was misleading you.

 

        Notwithstanding the estate miasma, I stay on the list because it is

endlessly fascinating and informative. I have a big bin of stuff that I've

saved for reference or have used to fuel my own research in my own areas of

interest. There's stuff in there from Phil Chaput, Gerry Nicosia, Joe Grant,

Jeffrey Weinberg, Levi Asher, Attila Gyenis, Pat Elliot, Bill Morgan, Diane

DuRooy, Marie and Derek and David and Bill Gargan....the list is long - I

just want to stop hearing spite and continue to have fun.

 

        And PLEASE - stop with the smarmy respectfully yours, etc.

 

        I challenge you to grab my interest with something, in the way you

did when you spoke about your father...or about several other topics.

 

        Antoine  (check out my sig file below! That goes for me in spades!)

 

 Voice contact at  (514) 933-4956 in Montreal

 

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never

cease to be amused."

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:26:06 -0800

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From:         "Timothy K. Gallaher" <gallaher@HSC.USC.EDU>

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At 03:03 AM 10/27/97 -0500, you wrote:

>The people who are stealing Kerouac books aren't stealing them to read. They

>are stealing them to resell to used bookstores. It is very hard to find used

>Kerouac used books (since everyone keeps theirs for life).

 

That's proabably a very good point.  I'll bet you are right.  I see few

Kerouac books at used bookstores and it has always been that way.

 

But, I gave away all my kerouac books about 7 years ago.  So now I have only

SF Blues (the little Penguin edition), The Letters and now Some of the

Dharma.  It hinders me here for discussions of the boooks in that although I

have read them and reread them it's been a long time ago now and I don't

have them to look at to refresh my memories and make comments.

 

In other words I am saying not everyone keeps them forever.

 

 

I know that is the

>case in NYC. So I don't think it is the people on this list who are stealing

>them (?or are you). Kerouac books, good as gold.

>

>someone wrote:

>>> Now I'm hearing that followers of the beat generation are notorious  book

>thieves in some areas.  What does that say about the Beat ethic?  Do any of

>you bookstore employees on this list know of other books and genres that are

>eminently stealable?  I can't believe that in the whole wide world of books,

>only Beat Generation

>topics inspire theft. ..

>

>

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I noticed this before the first time oyu posted this nice list.

 

There is something strange.

 

These links:

 

The Writer's Gallery =

<A HREF="http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">http://www.

onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html</A>

============================================

 

beat generation private chatroom =

<A HREF="http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html">aol://2719:

2-2-beat%20generation</A>

 

These links to

 

http://www.onestep.com/writers/short/gallaher/short.html

 

are to a story I wrote.  I am very pleased to see it here in this list

(twice even) but it doesn't really have anything to do with the Beats except

if you consider eating pancakes beat.

 

Just thought I would point that out.  I link to it from my Kerouac Speaks

page si maybe that's how it got on the list.

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At 11:48 AM 10/27/97 -0600, you wrote:

>>I think the Florida marlins just won the World seies.  Renteria hit one up

>>the middle in the 11th.

>>

>>Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to my

>>mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.  This guy is just 22 years

>>old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the

>>US and play.

>>

>>Go figure.

>>

>>"I love you Miami" is what he shouted.

>

>Mr. Gallaher,

>

>After hearing about the game this morning I was really sorry I didn't stop

>work and watch it last night. Hernandez is an incredible baseball player.

>As baeball fans know, Cuba has a reputation for developing outstanding

>baseball players. One ponly has to check the history of how their teams do

>in the Olympics.

>

>Also, he didn't have to "escape--run away--flee" Cuba to play baseball, he

>had to leave Cuba to become a millionare baseball player.

>

>I have no problem with that, but there are many who would call him a

>"gusano."

 

What's a "gusano"?

 

 

And he did have to run away.  He left in Mexico when the Cuban team was

playing there.  He did not have permission.  Rene Arocha was the first Cuban

ball player to do that and he literally ran away.

 

>That's unfair  because so many Cubans in the U.S. send money to

>their relatives in Cuba.

>

 

 

 

>It hasn't been easy on that tiny island with the most powerful nation on

>earth doing everything in it's power--short of invasion and all-out war--to

>break their economic back.

>

>j grant

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:49:08 -0800

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Antoine,

 

Thnaks for your thoughtful post on the "estate miasma".  I concurr

completely with your view.  Reasonableness and a quiet, sure tone gain

respect.  Constant aspersions on the motives of others don't.  Like you,

I remember no dirt being slung at Gerry during his abscense. If the

discussion could follow the sort of tone that Attila has used I think we

all would learn more about what the "facts" (if we will ever know them)

are.  More light.  Less heat.

 

 

Antoine Maloney wrote:

>

> Get out the blue ribbon folks!

 

>         There have been some interesting psots from both sides of the estate

> divide, but this is among the best and the current blue medal winner.

>

>         ...sorry Gerry, but it (Attilla's post) all sounds very sane,

 reasonable and very,

> very convincing. The rabidness of your attacks and those of Wallner have

> slowly worked to erode my sympathies for "the cause."

 

And Lord knows your signature line goes double for me!

 

J. Stauffer

>

>     "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never

> cease to be amused."

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:48:38 -0800

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Subject:      Put your glasses on, Antoine, respectfully

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At 01:25 PM 10/27/97 -0500, Antoine Malone wrote:

>        One of many points I would strenuously argue against: you have said

>repeatedly that while you were away from the list the "gang of (pick a

>number)" regularly sang the praises of John Sampas and sniped at you; never

>happened!! Not in my recollection. Whoever was reporting back to you from

>the list was misleading you.

.....

>

>        And PLEASE - stop with the smarmy respectfully yours, etc.

>

Dear Antoine,  Oct 27, 1997

        I NEVER said they attacked me while I was off the Beat-List. I did

say they said what a great custodian John Sampas was of the archive (I have

the posts, they were forwarded to me) as well as promoting Sampas-approved

events, like Kerouac Week in Lowell (at which poor Jan remained more than a

ghost).

        I can only say I'm glad lots of people on the list feel differently

than you.  I have received supporting posts from dozens of people during

this latest blitz.  And besides, my all-time hero is not Jack Kerouac but

another Franco-American named Henry David Thoreau, who said, "Any man more

right than his neighbors constitutes a majority of one already."

        As far as "respectfully," my parents taught me to respect everyone,

and when I say it, it's a lot more sincere than Mr. Maher saying "Let's be

friends" and then blasting me in the very next post.

        Respectfully (and not smarmily) yours, Gerald Nicosia

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:46:47 -0400

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Organization: University of Maine

Subject:      Re: Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive to Study

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>Personally I would love to see all the archives in a library at some

>point,

>as I'm sure all of you would but I think anyone would be a fool to only

>get

>one million for it. Gerry, I'm sure John really appreciates all your

>help

>but somehow I don't think he needs you to negotiate a deal with a

>library

>for him. Phil Chaput

 

     Herein, Mr. Chaput, lies the essential problem; "I think anyone

would be a fool to only get one million for it."  Jack, as I can in all

sureness declare, did not write the vast number of books he did that he

might make anyone, with the exclusion of himself, wealthy.  Nor did he

meticulously archive his material so that a profit might be made from

it by Mr. Sampas some 30 years later.  Whether or not the profit

belongs to the Kerouac estate or goes directly into Mr. Sampas' pockets

is irrelevant; money cannot be the determining factor concerning the

archives.  The blatantly simple facts: (1) Jack wants his archives

preserved and accessible, not privately hoarded.  (2) More than one

library is greatly interested in obtaining the archives for such

purposes as Jack intended, libraries willing to pay one million dollars

for said archive, libraries with the funds to properly care for the

archives.  (3) Mr. Sampas, whether legitimately or not as yet to be

determined, has the authority to place such archives in their proper

place, fulfilling Jack's wishes, and making a cool million at the same

time (wherever that million legally becomes distributed).  Now, I think

most folks will agree with me when I say that, to mine eyes, there is

obviously only one thing standing in the way of the correct course of

action: Greed.  A greed manifested by Spite, Jealousy, Vendetta, Anger

at the past and at what one man was not afraid to place in writing

concerning certain persons.  Talk about vanity.  Now you can say I

don't know the severity of what rides on all this politics, or that

it's easy to take on an air of idealism when I'm not the person who has

to make these choices, or stands to make loads of cash.  But, Mr.

Chaput, Mr. Sampas, and others involved, it doesn't take much thinking

to see what needs to and should be done.  Yes, this has all been said

before in one form or another, but the fact remains that the bullshit

continues.  "Gerry Nicosia's lame pursuits are what's holding up the

availabillity of the archives." Bullshit!  Anyone on this list can see

that's as bogus a claim as possible.  Interesting how Mr. Sampas

possesses enough power to instill fear of retribution in so many

people, proof of which can be found in the various exclusions of Jan

from Jack-related events, yet he cannot make available the Kerouac

archives, which he's been trying to do for oh so long, because of Mr.

Nicosia.  Do you or Mr. Sampas actually expect anyone to believe that?

This whole situation has a raunchy taste to it, Phil, very raunchy.

 

 

                              Tyson Ouellette

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Subject:      diz'n'bird print for sale

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beat-L'ers

As many of you know, for the last year i have been making linoleum block

prints which i have distributed all over the net (some of which are slated

for possible publication from _bulldog breath_, _william s. burroughs:

calling the toads_, _william s. borroughs: ghost of steel_, and _beat

scene_. also - i recently completed a print which was used for the

promotional poster of the RANT in louisville, KY reading organized by

Bohemian Ink and Published in Heaven Press.) also - several readers of

beat-L have my prints (off the top of my head i can think of rod anstee,

marie countryman, gerry nicosia, ron whitehead, antoine maloney, and

around a dozen others i think).

        I have recently finished a new print of dizzy gillespie and

charlie parker entitled "diz'n'bird", in a limited edition of 4

prints (with 1 Artist's Proof) with an image size of approx. 6"x6" and

printed on japanese woodblock paper.

        I am really happy with these prints and i will not be reprinting

them either for a new edition or for publication (once they're gone,

they're gone)

         I am offering these prints for sale at $12.00 US each (including

shipping & postage) if anyone is interested.

        Please let me know if any of you are interested in purchasing one

of these prints, its a work that im proud of and im sure you would like as

well.

        yrs

        derek beaulieu

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From:         randy royal <randyr@MAILHUB.JAXNET.COM>

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at my library, they sell all the books that have never been checked

out in a few years for about a buck. i found some pretty good stuff

there, and some crap.but they donot have discard stamps on them. is

jacksonville just behind or is DISCARDing stamping a college library

thing?

randy

 

> As a librarian, I know that we (here at Kenyon college) stamp "DISCARD" on any

> old library books we get rid of. If you want to boycott stolen books , you

> might avoid ex-library copies that do not have a DISCARD stamp in them. I

 think

> this practice is fairly common. Of course I say this after having bought a

 nice

> ex-library copy of BIG SUR a few years ago (and also and ex-lib copy of

 Phillip

> K. Dick's DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP). As any devout buyer of used

> books knows, ex-library copies are not worth much in the investment dept. They

> generally have the same statues as "READING COPIES." Once a book has been

> stamped and bar coded, the price goes down. So buyer beware, choose as yer

> concious directs!

>

> dave B.

>

>

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 21:47:45 -0800

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i cannot get any messages for more than 2 days.

 

 Yrs

 

 Murat Balkose

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From:         Tom Harberd <T.E.Harberd@UEA.AC.UK>

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On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:36:00 -0400 Icychick34@AOL.COM wrote:

 

> From: Icychick34@AOL.COM> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:36:00

-0400

> Subject: HELP PLEASE!!!!!!

> To: BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

>

> hello,

> let me start off by saying that my name is kristina and i

am a 19 year old in

> need of help. i am writing a research paper about William

S. Burroughs novel j

> unky. i was wondering if you could help me by finding or

offering critical

> opinions of the book for me as soon as possible. anything

you could come up

> with would be greatly appreciated. thank you.

> sincerely,

> kristina ames              e-mail: ICYCHICK34@SOL.COM

 

I don't think kristina is on the list, since I directed her

to it for more help on her question (she found my web page

or something), so if you're replying it might be a good idea

to mail me directly.  ALternatively, she might be on the

list, and I might have just deleted her subscribe message

with all the bullshit estate state (sorry, no offense,

please don't kill me, but it's BORING) (Tom - not sounding

like a ten year old, really....)

It's Monday night!  And it's... tedious.  Two more hours and

I can go to the pub... oh the joy...

 

Tom. H.

http://www.uea.ac.uk/~w9624759

"When the going gets wierd, the wierd turn pro."

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At 03:03 AM 10/27/97 -0500, Attila Gyenis wrote:

>

>I haven't lived near Lowell for over a year and a half (I used to live in New

>Hampshire). Actually, we are practically neighbors since I am now living here

>in northern California (Eureka).

 

Hi, Neighbor!   Oct 27, 1997

        One quick question.  You claim you've been away from Lowell for a

year and a half.  Yet I just received the DHARMA BEAT, which you edit and

publish, and the address of the magazine is Lowell, Massachusetts.  Can you

explain this discrepancy?

        Also, I sent you several corrections of glaring errors in your

latest issue, such as the fact that Jack never saw Neal while living in

Berkeley in 1957.  Did you get those corrections?  I sent them to your

Lowell address.  If not, where should I send them?

        Best always, Gerry Nicosia

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     Marie and all,

 

     sorry I didn't post yet, but I just checked my email today. (all 190 posts)

 

     Ever since stumbling on Harry Smith's work at Naropa in 1993. I have

     awaited the reissue of his anthology. I was glad to find that it has been

     reissued with all of Harry's original artwork/notes. The magnitude of this

     anthology cannot not be understated. The music is haunting. An america

     already gone. These are the real voices of America. One can only imagine

     what it would have been to hear these voices in 1952 at the height of the

     McCarthy era.

 

     I have just barely skimmed the surface of this collection. I think that

     this would be a great thread on this list if others who have this set could

     comment. Harry Smith's films are amazing as well, anyone out there famliar

     with the films too?

 

     In regards to Jym's comment I have to say that I love both Jazz and folk.

     In fact, they are so close that they are woven together in my mind.

     Harry used to paint following the music of Dizzy or others. Every stroke in

     his painting corresponded to a note in the music.

 

     on beyond the on-beyond

 

     More soon

 

     Sean D. Young

 

     syoung@dsw.com

 

 

For info on this mind-boggling collection of American music, go to

 

http://www.si.edu/organiza/offices/folklife/folkways/harry/hatext.htm

 

This anthology is so rich that I've been listening to it since August and have

only gotten through the first four of six CD's.

 

Although I am a Beat fan of many years' standing, I am definitely not a jazz

fan...just an old folkie at heart...always have been, always will be. No

apologies, no regrets.

 

Regards,

 

Jym

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On Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:39:28 -0600 Sean Young said: >     Marie,

>

>     same plane.

>     dylan CD all around.

>     alternating with Harry Smith's folk anthology. >

>     many voices. lost times

>

>     AH

>

>     SDY

>

>

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>Date:    10/24/97 1:23 PM

>

>

>...and there's no one around...

>WHO IS BOB DYLAN AND WHY WON'T HE LEAVE MY CD PLAYER???

>

>thank the gods and goddesses:

>all and whoever.

>

>the best matured combo of blonde on blonde, new morining and blood on

>the tracks.

>i'm in dylan heaven....

>mc

 

 Sean, can you post specifics on Harry Smith's anthology?

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From:         "Derek A. Beaulieu" <dabeauli@FREENET.CALGARY.AB.CA>

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hey, its just me

i was wondering if you beat folks and bookselllers might be able to help

me on a search. im looking for copies of the following books by mary

Shelley (y'know the author of _frankenstein_) and i was wondering if you

all could help. im looking for them as a collector, but rather a xmas

present as my girlfriend is doing her master's thesis on shelley and needs

to find copies of the following:

_The fortunes of perkin warbeck_

_travel writing_

_rambles in germany and italy_ (very important)

_falkner; a novel_

can any of you keep yr eyes out for these books and let me know if you

find them in yr travels. i would really like to get a hold of them (if

they arent too expensive) and im sure we can work something out (i'll pay,

of course, for all postage and cost...)

thanks for yr help

yrs

derek

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Derek A. Beaulieu wrote:

>

> hey, its just me

> i was wondering if you beat folks and bookselllers might be able to help

> me on a search. im looking for copies of the following books by mary

> Shelley (y'know the author of _frankenstein_) and i was wondering if you

> all could help. im looking for them as a collector, but rather a xmas

> present as my girlfriend is doing her master's thesis on shelley and needs

> to find copies of the following:

> _The fortunes of perkin warbeck_

> _travel writing_

> _rambles in germany and italy_ (very important)

> _falkner; a novel_

> can any of you keep yr eyes out for these books and let me know if you

> find them in yr travels. i would really like to get a hold of them (if

> they arent too expensive) and im sure we can work something out (i'll pay,

> of course, for all postage and cost...)

> thanks for yr help

> yrs

> derek

 

http://www.bibliofind.com/

 

dbr

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>This whole situation has a raunchy taste to it, Phil, very raunchy.

>

>

>                              Tyson Ouellette

>What's been in your mouth?

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau

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I have one question, while the archives in the NY Public Library are not

"all" the archives, neverthess they are there...who, amongst the top ten

complainers on this list has actually used anything there for research and

if so...what have you done? P.

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau

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From:         "Derek A. Beaulieu" <dabeauli@FREENET.CALGARY.AB.CA>

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race

thanks for advice re: bibliofind

BUT i've already checked amazon, bibliofind, nansearch and local

bookstores' books in print - thats why im turning to the shelves and

eagle-eyes of fellow beat members to keep an eye out

yrs

derek

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:29:23 +0000

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From:         Marie Countryman <country@SOVER.NET>

Subject:      Re: diz'n'bird print for sale

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i would like to tell all here that i am the proud curator of many many of

derek's prints (one of which will be representing a 'slice' of me in the big

boho book.)

exquisite detail, lots of love of the process and obvious love of subject.

derek, i gotta save for california next month, but i want to let everyone

know that you are the primo.

mc

 

Derek A. Beaulieu wrote:

 

> beat-L'ers

> As many of you know, for the last year i have been making linoleum block

> prints which i have distributed all over the net (some of which are slated

> for possible publication from _bulldog breath_, _william s. burroughs:

> calling the toads_, _william s. borroughs: ghost of steel_, and _beat

> scene_. also - i recently completed a print which was used for the

> promotional poster of the RANT in louisville, KY reading organized by

> Bohemian Ink and Published in Heaven Press.) also - several readers of

> beat-L have my prints (off the top of my head i can think of rod anstee,

> marie countryman, gerry nicosia, ron whitehead, antoine maloney, and

> around a dozen others i think).

>         I have recently finished a new print of dizzy gillespie and

> charlie parker entitled "diz'n'bird", in a limited edition of 4

> prints (with 1 Artist's Proof) with an image size of approx. 6"x6" and

> printed on japanese woodblock paper.

>         I am really happy with these prints and i will not be reprinting

> them either for a new edition or for publication (once they're gone,

> they're gone)

>          I am offering these prints for sale at $12.00 US each (including

> shipping & postage) if anyone is interested.

>         Please let me know if any of you are interested in purchasing one

> of these prints, its a work that im proud of and im sure you would like as

> well.

>         yrs

>         derek beaulieu

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From:         Diane De Rooy <Ddrooy@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: help w/ non-beat book search please!

 

Derek-- have you tried these guys? http://www.abebooks.com/

 

 <A HREF="http://www.abebooks.com/">The Advanced Book Exchange Home Page</A>

 

diane

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From:         Sherri <love_singing@CLASSIC.MSN.COM>

Subject:      Re: The Gang of One

 

once again, you blow my fucking mind!!!  be my Moloch!! <BG>

 

love you,

sherri

 

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From:   BEAT-L: Beat Generation List on behalf of RACE ---

Sent:   Sunday, October 26, 1997 11:13 PM

To:     BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

Subject:        The Gang of One

 

I saw an enlightening painting on North Poplar Street in Wichita between

Douglas and Second this weekend.  It was titled "A Gang of One".

 

I returned to a digest that included a diatribe or polemic i'm not

certain which concerning the anti-Johnsonishtistic cliqueishness of

elements on the Beat-L "ganging" up on folks and throwing them to the

wolves.  And i thought -- oh yeah i think i did body slam that guy once

or twice.  Sad that he took it as hateful.  Oh well.

 

And then of course the gang doesn't ever argue within itself.  We never

disagree amongst ourselves -- we only say GO GO GO and AH! and this and

that wondering who can pat the other's backs fastest and bestest and we

do this while mentioning coded messages of the music which we're

listening to while writing (for example i'm listening to Howl in my left

ear and a learning channel show on apparitions in my right at this

moment) and the coded soundtrack changes the whole meaning of the whole

thing to everyone here and there and everywhere that is IN the gang but

is intended obviously as a stonewalling of those who are out.  Like my

introduction to the Beat-L when I was so fucking beat that in reading

Rinaldo on Howl and the Declaration of Independence pulled Carl Becker's

historical interpretation off the bookshelf and began to scan it and

told people that i was reading it (and the author wasn't even BEAT

egad)  and of course i've committed a crime against humanity here and

there in my days on and off list.  I've burned a book or two and torn

many apart to place them in different order in journals -- tossing on a

title and giving it to my shrink.  And i've liberated more books than

anyone on this list in my youth and what am i to do about it.  i ain't

much of a liberator these days.  I'm much more of a donater taking a box

of books to charities usually a couple times a month.  But how long will

this bardonic purgatorgistic mark of theft hang on my brow like Cain

perhaps I can spawn an entire race and will this race be as EVIL as

America as the world as Moloch or Angels?  I have no clue

 

And who do I see to get into this Gang anyway.  How many in this Gang?

What are their names what are their names do you know the folks on the

good Reuben James?  I must wonder now and then but I am told that if one

merely mails to listserv address the word REVIEW the list of the

co-conspirators will flash on my screen and i can mark down which are on

the side of grace and which on the side of Moloch and who live in Kansas

or have been through Wichita and driven down Poplar Street is obviously

something of a Calvinistic notion of the "elect" in this Gang of One.

 

But what was I saying?

 

Oh yes.  I drove South.  I saw.  I visited.  I followed an enchanting

Irish pied piper keyboard from oldtown to the Bill Garrison blues

society convention birthday party an eclectic Ericksonian halloween bash

and a rendition of "All of Me" in which we all decided we were only half

conscious so began again singing "Half of me, why not take Half of Me"

and then walked again into a dark wichita night and the Gang of One

painting lead me here and there and to the Knights Motel and back across

to Poplar and to the U. and to Southeast Asia foreign policy concerning

Burmese/Myanamaristic heroin dealing.  And return to a diatribe against

my one nation under God and heard a cat say this morning "I invent more

Gods in one day than you will believe in in a lifetime" and so I

understand but then again after about two or three questions from moi he

did admit that he also "destroys more Gods in one day than you will

believe in in a lifetime" and this caveman's eyes sparkle in a cricket

habitat as he says these things and so do i invent or do i destroy and

am I america or is america some evil demon someone ELSE has created and

that i will sit around and whine about in my youth.  Of course it is,

because we all go through those days ... bad hair days in which the

world is our oyster and the troubles are all caused by them.  By the

gang.  That damn clique on the Beat-L -- they're probably responsible

for the tensions in Kashmir afterall aren't they.  And I am A GANG OF

ONE!  but it is pretty fucking big ONE if you get the drift.  ONE nation

under GOD (pick a god any god) INDIVISABLE ah there's the rub.  At least

to those who ain't in Kansas cuz ya gotta know that whether you pick

Lecompton or Topeka the crystal on my bathroom shelf still shines the

same mystic colours.  Why divide?  Why not belive in indivisibility?

Because I am not me?  You are not me.  I am not in the Gang.  The Gang

is in the Gang and since I'm outside of the Gang I must not be in the

Gang and I am outside the Gang because I ain't no I yet I'm sitting

around saying YOU YOU YOU it's all your fault.  Well, son, find a little

Moloch in yourself ... smile at it sing Holy Holy Holy to your Moloch

admit it and get over it and become a Gang of One and then look around

at the Gangs of Gangs that Mother of All Gangs that you feared most

(whichever it happens to be this minute) and you'll say -- Oh it's you!

Why didn't you tell me were falling into that old Steppenwolf spiritual

trip again!!! <grin>

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, James Stauffer wrote:

 

> Reasonableness and a quiet, sure tone gain respect.  Constant aspersions

> on the motives of others don't.

 

Much truth there, James, but we must also bear in mind that there is a

time to attack, in all righteous wrath.

 

I cannot judge the merits of either side in the Estate debate, but Gerry's

indignation and keep-on-coming energy wins my respect. And if the comments

re. motives are accurate, I want to hear those aspersions too.

 

The debate on the propriety of Beat-L as battlefield strikes me as a

Mahayana/Hinayana, or Rinzai/Soto conflict. I've always gravitated to

Mahayana Buddhism (and Rinzai Zen), so I say let's have the leviathans

duke it out. Hurrah for both sides!

 

 

 

Michael

 

(slipping a covert horseshoe into Gerry's glove)

 

 

 

+ -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- + -- +

  Michael R. Brown                        foosi@global.california.com

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           "Fancy titles and nightshirts are a waste of time."

 

    - "Alfred" [a California hotelier - search Yahoo! under 'Alfred']

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From:         Marie Countryman <country@SOVER.NET>

Subject:      Re: Bob Kaufman Award

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cranial guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the

intro..

have a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of

wonderful work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends

chasing after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist

heart.

i am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the

world for us all

mc

 

 

Gerald Nicosia wrote:

 

> Hi to everyone!       Oct 27, 1997

>         Just wanted to explain that I'll be scarce for a few days since I'm

> headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob

> Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House

> Press).  Bob's book was picked as the best poetry book in the Western United

> States last year.  The awards ceremony is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.

> starting 6:30 Tuesday evening.  Supposed to be movie stars reading the

> award-winning books.  Sounds like a kick.

>         Best always, Gerry Nicosia

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From:         ANNE ELIZABETH SNEDDON <sneddon@NEVADA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: Steal this book

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On a related subject, has anybody out there found a Kerouac early edition

paperback in a thrift store? I had a fleeting vision recently about

finding a 1st edition copy of OTR in a thrift store and have been

extra-throrough when going through the book section.  Nothing so far, but

I have found a few neato 50's/60's Ace science fiction paperbacks which

are worth it for the cover art alone!

Anne Sneddon

 

On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Attila Gyenis wrote:

 

> The people who are stealing Kerouac books aren't stealing them to read. They

> are stealing them to resell to used bookstores. It is very hard to find used

> Kerouac used books (since everyone keeps theirs for life). I know that is the

> case in NYC. So I don't think it is the people on this list who are stealing

> them (?or are you). Kerouac books, good as gold.

>

> someone wrote:

> >> Now I'm hearing that followers of the beat generation are notorious  book

> thieves in some areas.  What does that say about the Beat ethic?  Do any of

> you bookstore employees on this list know of other books and genres that are

> eminently stealable?  I can't believe that in the whole wide world of books,

> only Beat Generation

> topics inspire theft. ..

>

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>

>Dear Attila,  Oct 27, 1997

>        Jack sure as hell didn't intend the Sampases to take care of his

>archive.  He wrote to Paul Blake, Jr. on October 20, 1997, just before he

>fell ill: "I just wanted to leave my 'estate' (which is what it really is)

>to someone directly connected with the last remaining drop of my direct

>blood line, which is, me sister Carolyn, your Mom, and not to leave a

>dingblasted f------g think to my wife's one hundred Greek relatives."

 

Since this seems to be the one quote used incessantly, I quote from a

notebook of Jack Kerouac's which, in my opinion, strikes me as being just as

valid as anything mentioned from you in the same vein....

 

  "may God make me a millionaire someday so I wont lend or leave anything to

any Blakes."

 

   The truth is this, that while some may concur with Mr. Nicosia's

reasoning about what Jack Kerouac may or may not have written (or to be

decreed as testament or will),it is not the only thing that exists that

proves his point solidly. We know Kerouac as contradictory and in his later

years, embittered, but we cannot surmise the intentions of his estate by

what he may or may not have mentioned in a letter. The fact is this, that

Gabrielle Kerouac inherited the estate and from there, Stella Sampas.The

Sampas Family controls the estate with John Sampas appointed as literary

representative. The nimble thread of evidence that Gerry Nicosia balances

upon for his case hinges on opinion, not Jack Kerouac's intentions. Hence,

the pondering about forgery, the only thing that matters here for Mr.

Nicosia, is the only thing he has to go on. It is easy to tread on the

intentions of the dead, Jack, Gabrielle, Stella or otherwise...Paul of

TKQ....

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau

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From:         Michael Skau <mskau@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: jack

Comments: To: First_Name Last_Name <Kindlesan@AOL.COM>

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On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, First_Name Last_Name wrote:

 

>

> if i were a dead icon, i'd be pissed over such infantile arguing, no matter

> how much it's in the name of jack or his estate or literature or any

> reason.....

>

>

> brian

>

Sorry, I couldn't help laughing when I saw this.

Personally, when I become a dead icon I intend not to get pissed over

anything.

Cordially,

Mike Skau

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Derek and others,

 

    Online there is a site called "The Advanced Book Exchange."  They bring

together hundreds of independent booksellers all over the states into one

easily searchable site.  I've found quite a few hard to find books there,

it's worth a look...  sorry I don't have the URL, try Yahoo!, I think it's

an easy to find site.

 

Bruce

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Derek A. Beaulieu <dabeauli@FREENET.CALGARY.AB.CA>

To: BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU <BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 4:37 PM

Subject: Re: help w/ non-beat book search please!

 

 

>race

>thanks for advice re: bibliofind

>BUT i've already checked amazon, bibliofind, nansearch and local

>bookstores' books in print - thats why im turning to the shelves and

>eagle-eyes of fellow beat members to keep an eye out

>yrs

>derek

>

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From:         "Paul A. Maher Jr." <mapaul@PIPELINE.COM>

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At 05:54 PM 10/27/97 +0000, you wrote:

>cranial guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the

>intro..

>have a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of

>wonderful work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends

>chasing after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist

>heart.

>i am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the

>world for us all

>mc

>

>

>Gerald Nicosia wrote:

>

>> Hi to everyone!       Oct 27, 1997

>>         Just wanted to explain that I'll be scarce for a few days since I'm

>> headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob

>> Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House

>> Press).  Bob's book was picked as the best poetry book in the Western United

>> States last year.  The awards ceremony is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.

>> starting 6:30 Tuesday evening.  Supposed to be movie stars reading the

>> award-winning books.  Sounds like a kick.

>>         Best always, Gerry Nicosia

>Cheers and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise

when

THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

Paul....

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau

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Paul A. Maher Jr. wrote:

>

> At 05:54 PM 10/27/97 +0000, you wrote:

> >cranial guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the

> >intro..

> >have a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of

> >wonderful work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends

> >chasing after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist

> >heart.

> >i am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the

> >world for us all

> >mc

> >

> >

> >Gerald Nicosia wrote:

> >

> >> Hi to everyone!       Oct 27, 1997

> >>         Just wanted to explain that I'll be scarce for a few days since I'm

> >> headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob

> >> Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House

> >> Press).  Bob's book was picked as the best poetry book in the Western

 United

> >> States last year.  The awards ceremony is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.

> >> starting 6:30 Tuesday evening.  Supposed to be movie stars reading the

> >> award-winning books.  Sounds like a kick.

> >>         Best always, Gerry Nicosia

> >Cheers and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise

> when

> THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

> Paul....

> "We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

>                                            Henry David Thoreau

 

technical foul :)

 

the Committee

 

dbr

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Diane Carter wrote:

>

> > Leon Tabory wrote:

>

> > I can be pissed at  lack of compassion and at mistreatment of people

> > anywhere in the world. Screw you suggests to me not a call for a

> > specific

> > action but an outraged outcry at uncalled for meanness. I don't think

> > it is

> > fair to single out the United States as being a bad apple among

> > nations,

> > when in my opinion it is qactually better than most.

>

> Leon,

>

> I have to agree with you about the replacing of America with world,

> because the kind of meanness you suggest is in effect widespread as

> "man's inhumanity to man."  I read Keith's screw you America to mean he

> wants nothing to do with what America is, but whether one likes it or

> not, whether we feel we are in or out of the mainstream, we are all a

> part of America unless we chose to leave it.  I would rather see the

> screw you applied more appropriately to specific actions and not the

> country as a whole, much like what Ginsberg was doing when he wrote "Go

> fuck yourself with your atom bomb."

> DC

 

of course the alternative is Bob Dylan's speech receiving a civil

liberties award when he said something to the affect of "we all have a

little bit of Lee Harvey Oswald in us."

 

tangentially, the ancient egyptians included a confession of the crimes

they had not committed in their lifetime in their final spiritual

cleansings before death -- perhaps to cleanse any psychic complicity --

i really don't know.

 

david rhaesa

salina, Kansas

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From:         Jorgiana S Jake <jorgiana@U.ARIZONA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: How about this topic, discuss it amongst yourselves.

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Just a quick post from a lurker.  Have you noticed that in both instances

(traffic and email) the rage comes about (maybe) due to the fact that

we are, to a degree, anonymous? I mean, I for one, have said things via

computer that I wouldn't say if face to face with someone...just a

thought.

 

Jorgiana

 

 

 

On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, R. Bentz Kirby wrote:

 

> I believe we should open a new thread.  It is on the internet/www

> phenomenon.  It should be a comparison about how very intelligent people

> can lose all sense of perspective when one of two things happens, they

> get cut off in traffic (or someone drives into a parking place they have

> been waiting on) or when they get mad or emotional about a thread on a

> mail list.  I believe these ideas are comparable and that they can lead

> us directly to the collective unconscious mind and how it affects mail

> list behavior and traffic.  For instance, we could delve into how do you

> "feel" someone staring at you at a trafffic light, and how do you know

> when someone has "insulted" you in a fashion that will lead to a duel by

> making a post to the mail list.

>

> I think that we could even discuss the quality of the midi file of "Take

> Five" on Keith's site.  Is it real jass, or is it Sear's jazz?  What

> would Jack think about it?

>

> Well the list of topics is endless and I really did suggest a collection

> or works, Big Sky Mind for discussion.  Is anyone interested?  I suggest

> we start with Harold Norse's poems as they are good and there are only

> about three.

>

> Just a thought.

>

> --

>

> Peace,

>

> Bentz

> bocelts@scsn.net

> http://www.scsn.net/users/sclaw

>

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From:         Jorgiana S Jake <jorgiana@U.ARIZONA.EDU>

Subject:      Re: hi cathie!

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RE: Pull my Daisy.

 

 

Apologizing in advance if someone already answered this...I have 400

messages today and I'm only on 90. A few months back I had trouble finding

a video until someone suggested Home FilmFestival 800-258-3456.  Callthem

and see if it helps.

 

Jorgiana

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At 10:49 AM 10/27/97 -0800, you wrote:

James Stauffer wrote:

 

>Thnaks for your thoughtful post on the "estate miasma".  I concurr

>completely with your view.  Reasonableness and a quiet, sure tone gain

>respect.  Constant aspersions on the motives of others don't.  Like you,

>I remember no dirt being slung at Gerry during his abscense. If the

>discussion could follow the sort of tone that Attila has used I think we

>all would learn more about what the "facts" (if we will ever know them)

>are.  More light.  Less heat.

>

 

Sweet Baby James,

        Your Blue Ribbon Boy (Attila) has won helluva walk to his post

office box in Lowell, Massachusetts, from his home in Eureka, California.  I

think he ought to get the Blue Ribbon for that alone.

        P.S. James Taylor, ex-junkie, definitely is Beat.

        Best always, Gerry Nicosia

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At 05:37 PM 10/27/97 -0500, Paul Maher wrote:

>THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

 

 

Once again, Mr. Maher opens his mouth before he knows whereof he speaks.

The board in LA (I'm in San Francisco) selects an awards committee, and the

awards committee selects three prominent individuals in each catagory to

pick the award.  This year, the poetry award was judged by Lorna Dee

Cervantes, Francis Phillips, and Louis MacAdams.  I have never met Ms.

Cervantes and Ms. (Mr.?) Phillips.  Mr. MacAdams I met once at a Kerouac

festival several years ago, and have not had any communication with him since.

        The Pen West award, by the way, was mentioned by PUblishers Weekly

as one of the most prestigious and significant awards in the country.

        --Gerald Nicosia (targeted for slander by-------?)

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Gerry,

 

An award Bob richly deserved.  May it be some assistance to Eileen.

 

Don't remember the PEN crew paying much attention to Kaufman when he was

among us.

 

J. Stauffer

"Sweet Baby James" to you.

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From:         Gary Mex Glazner <PoetMex@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Bob Kaufman Award

 

In a message dated 10/27/97 3:26:19 PM, you wrote:

 

<<>Cheers and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise

when

THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

Paul....

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau>>

 

Dear Beat List,

 

I had the pleasure of speaking with Elaine Kaufman (Bob's Widow)

at the Six Gallery memorial reading, held recently in San Francisco.

She was so proud of CRANIAL GUITAR being chosen for the Pen West Award.

Ms. Kaufman was very excited about going to LA for the awards ceremony,

and that after all these years Bob was getting some long overdue praise.

I for one love his poetry. Best Wishes to Elaine and Gerry and

congratulations

on the award.

 

yrs

Gary Mex Glazner

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At 03:09 PM 10/27/97 -0800, you wrote:

>At 05:37 PM 10/27/97 -0500, Paul Maher wrote:

>>THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

>

>

>Once again, Mr. Maher opens his mouth before he knows whereof he speaks.

>The board in LA (I'm in San Francisco) selects an awards committee, and the

>awards committee selects three prominent individuals in each catagory to

>pick the award.  This year, the poetry award was judged by Lorna Dee

>Cervantes, Francis Phillips, and Louis MacAdams.  I have never met Ms.

>Cervantes and Ms. (Mr.?) Phillips.  Mr. MacAdams I met once at a Kerouac

>festival several years ago, and have not had any communication with him since.

>        The Pen West award, by the way, was mentioned by PUblishers Weekly

>as one of the most prestigious and significant awards in the country.

>        --Gerald Nicosia (targeted for slander by-------?)

>iF I am wrong then I apologize profusely......Paul of TKQ. . .

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau

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Derek,

 

        Here's hoping that there's one left...is there?

 

                Antoine

 Voice contact at  (514) 933-4956 in Montreal

 

    "Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves, for they shall never

cease to be amused."

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i think this is a post about the world series, there is no place safe.

tell me baseball is beat because jack loved it. amerika spends its wad

on sports, little boy elbows gone at 12, parents calling 8 year old

rivals little bastards, money money money and of course drinking.

 

Timothy K. Gallaher wrote:

>

> I think the Florida marlins just won the World seies.  Renteria hit one up

> the middle in the 11th.

>

> Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to my

> mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.  This guy is just 22 years

> old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the

> US and play.

>

> Go figure.

>

> "I love you Miami" is what he shouted.

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:02:27 EST

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From:         Bill Gargan <WXGBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>

Subject:      Re: Why there is no Jack Kerouac Archive to Study

In-Reply-To:  Message of Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:54:10 -0500 from

              <mapaul@PIPELINE.COM>

 

On Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:54:10 -0500 Paul A. Maher Jr. said:

>I have one question, while the archives in the NY Public Library are not

>"all" the archives, neverthess they are there...who, amongst the top ten

>complainers on this list has actually used anything there for research and

>if so...what have you done? P.

>"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

>                                           Henry David Thoreau

 

 Not that I'm in the top ten complainers, but I have used some of the Kerouac m

aterials in the Berg Collection -- the notebooks for "The Beat Generation."  Th

is was probably in the middle 1980s, however, before the arrival of the items d

dposited by Mr. Sampas.  I did enjoy the exhibit a few years ago.

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At 05:52 PM 10/27/97 -0600, you wrote:

>i think this is a post about the world series, there is no place safe.

>tell me baseball is beat because jack loved it. amerika spends its wad

>on sports, little boy elbows gone at 12, parents calling 8 year old

>rivals little bastards, money money money and of course drinking.

 

 

Did you ever see Pull My daisy?  "Is baseball holy?" is one of the questions

about holiness they were asking the priest.

 

Dr. Sax has great baseball stuff.  I saw an anthology of baseball fiction

once in the sports section of a bookstore and lo and behold a section of Dr.

Sax was included.

 

As I recall Scotty Boldieu (so named because of his stinginess in eating his

candy bars) was the ace of the Dracut Tigers.

 

 

>

>Timothy K. Gallaher wrote:

>>

>> I think the Florida marlins just won the World seies.  Renteria hit one up

>> the middle in the 11th.

>>

>> Tony Fernandez was "the goat" (always unfair to call someone the goat to my

>> mind--but they do) was Livan Hernandez the MVP.  This guy is just 22 years

>> old and he had to escape from Cuba (escape--run away--flee) to come to the

>> US and play.

>>

>> Go figure.

>>

>> "I love you Miami" is what he shouted.

>

>

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:14:37 -0500

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Subject:      Re: Leavng the list

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Dear Eric,

 

I don't remember creating a laugh at your expense.  I'm sorry

though, if it hurt.  I've been so bruised on the newsgroups

that I've lost most of my feelings and say anything that comes

to mind, sometimes, but not with a view toward injuring anyone.

 

I hold many of the same views you do about this list.  I mostly

contribute nothing, but comment occasionally on what I read.  I

don't mean any harm.  I'm sort of put off by all the worshipping

of OTR, Kerouac, Burroughs, etc.  I don't worship any of these

dead white guys.  I'm irreverent about the Beat legacy.  Its now

like any other thoroughly accepted cultural "content."  For sale

at the highest price possible.  I don't bitch about the hawking of

books and t-shirts because I don't care that the Beats have become

part of the cultural wallpaper.  I think you're alright and I don't

think you should take what you read here so seriously.

 

Come back to the Five and Dime, Eric!

 

Mike Rice

 

At 02:32 AM 10/26/97 -0500, you wrote:

>You know, I agree with Richard Wallner.  There is a clique mentality on

>this list and if you're not a part of it, you're screwed.  Every time

>I've posted here I've been dissed and cut down.  I'm not just another

>ignorant college student bumbling my way through a paper.  Yeah, I gotta

>write a paper on Kerouac and Burroughs, but I came here far before I

>knew I'd ever write about those guys.  I fell in love with the

>literature and the lives of those behind it.  It's tough to find Beat

>references and literature outside of pedestrian criticism and

>lightweight works on the Beats as a collective.  I thought this list

>would be a repository of great ideas and I could offer some

>interpretations of Beat works that would drum up some new angles I'd

>never considered.  But after my first couple of posts I realized -

>"flame on!" - I was dead here.  I stuck around, hoping it would get a

>little better, then the estate battle broke out and I realized tensions

>would never ease.  The camps were divided and God forbid you fell

>anywhere between them.  Then I found one of my posts quoted with Mike

>Rice's "funny" dis of my post included for good humiliatory pleasure.

>That's the last straw for me.  I'm the butt of jokes and ridicule every

>single day at my university - I'm ostracized and criticized at every

>turn.  Everyone either hates me, is afriad of me or thinks I am an ass.

>I don't need that popping up in my mailbox at home too.  See ya later

>and thanx for everything.  Maybe I'll be back one day . . .

>

>Eric "Moose" Macy

>

>

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:07:35 -0600

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From:         Patricia Elliott <pelliott@SUNFLOWER.COM>

Subject:      Re: Bob Kaufman Award

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Paul A. Maher Jr. wrote:

> THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

> Paul....

now if i say high tall this makes you look my sister will chide me for

relating size to honor.  but how about giving the small petty creepy

remarks a rest.

p

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:32:33 -0500

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From:         Alex Howard <kh14586@ACS.APPSTATE.EDU>

Subject:      Ted Jones

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Does anyone know anything about this writer/poet?  All I've go is what

little I've picked up (encouraged by Ginsberg, started Rent-A-Beatnik).

After searching all the library systems in the state, I found one

collection of his work.  Does anyone know where I could find some good

background info?  The resources here are limited (as one can tell from the

above statement).  If anyone knows of an anthology or article or book with

some info on this guy I could be pointed toward I'd be eternally grateful.

 

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Alex Howard  (704)264-8259                    Appalachian State University

kh14586@am.appstate.edu                       P.O. Box 12149

http://www1.appstate.edu/~kh14586             Boone, NC  28608

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Date:         Tue, 28 Oct 1997 00:32:41 UT

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From:         Sherri <love_singing@CLASSIC.MSN.COM>

Subject:      Re: Bob Kaufman Award

 

Paul - that was below the belt and quite crude

sherri----------

From:   BEAT-L: Beat Generation List on behalf of Paul A. Maher Jr.

Sent:   Monday, October 27, 1997 2:37 PM

To:     BEAT-L@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU

Subject:        Re: Bob Kaufman Award

 

At 05:54 PM 10/27/97 +0000, you wrote:

>cranial guitar is a wonder , a pleasure, a shock a surprise and i love the

>intro..

>have a good time gerry, relax and enjoy yourself. you've done a lot of

>wonderful work, in my eyes, mem babe, kaufman (the thought of his friends

>chasing after his napkins, his howling his poems in the street his anarchist

>heart.

>i am so glad you took the time to gather them up and put them out into the

>world for us all

>mc

>

>

>Gerald Nicosia wrote:

>

>> Hi to everyone!       Oct 27, 1997

>>         Just wanted to explain that I'll be scarce for a few days since I'm

>> headed down to L.A. to collect the PEN USA CENTER WEST award for the Bob

>> Kaufman book I edited (posthumously) called CRANIAL GUITAR (Coffee House

>> Press).  Bob's book was picked as the best poetry book in the Western

United

>> States last year.  The awards ceremony is at the Biltmore in downtown L.A.

>> starting 6:30 Tuesday evening.  Supposed to be movie stars reading the

>> award-winning books.  Sounds like a kick.

>>         Best always, Gerry Nicosia

>Cheers and congrats to Gerry, I know how hard it is to garnish such praise

when

THE RECIPIENT IS ON THE SAME BOARD THAT DEALT OUT THE AWARD (PEN WEST)!!!!!

Paul....

"We cannot well do without our sins; they are the highway to our virtues."

                                           Henry David Thoreau

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:38:46 -0500

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From:         John J Dorfner <Jjdorfner@AOL.COM>

Subject:      Re: Steal this book

 

i found two copies of Maggie Cassidy 1st edition at a place called Manny's,

an art supply/used book store in New Paltz New York.   and the price i

paid...12 cents each.  yes...that is right...12 cents each.  this was in

1976.

 

john j dorfner

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:40:47 -0600

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From:         Cathy Wilkie <cawilkie@COMIC.NET>

Subject:      wichita and soul coughing

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> i wasn't going to head to wichita cuz my step-dad is in the hosptial but

> i'm going to shift gears and leave him to the doctors and head down to

> see Wichita and visit Pat O'Connor and the Wichita State Library (and

> look for some books so i can ask questions about them)....

 

okay okay i have to say it :

 

Anybody ever heard of a band call soul coughing????

 

(true dreams of wichita???)

 

some are claiming that the lyricist/singer is the newest thing in beat

poetry, but in all interviews i've read about them, he says, "no man, i

just like playing around with words."

 

give a listen to them if you can, in particular their cd "ruby vroom"

cw

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Date:         Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:48:14 -0600

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> 2) C'mon, Gerry and Phil and Paul and Bill and Marie

> and Richard and Leon -- how about we all meet somewhere

> like Lawrence Kansas (in the middle of the country) and

> have a big group hug, come on everybody what do you say?

 

Levi:

 

can i get in on the group hug thing?  I'm in iowa, and how much more in

the middle of the country can you get???

 

cw

 



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